This joker attacks the King James and guess what: the King James Bible stands…
My comments are in ALL CAPS.
Six Reasons To Not Follow “King James Version-onlyism”
By Pastor K. Bruce Oyen
First Baptist Church
First, don’t follow KJV-onlyism because it seems to imply that the Bible was not in English prior to the KJV.
KJV–only literature emphasizes the idea that only the KJV is God’s Word in English. If that is true, what were English Bible translations before the KJV was published? Are we to assume that they were not really Bibles? Or, are we to assume that they ceased to be Bibles when the KJV was printed in 1611?
What are the pre-KJV English Bibles? The Wycliffe Bible (1382); Tyndale’s Bible (1525-1534); Coverdale’s Bible (1535); Thomas Matthew’s Bible (1537); the Great Bible (1539); the Geneva Bible (1557-1560); the Bishop’s Bible (1568).
If these translations were the Word of God when they were first published, they still are the Word of God. And if that is true, we cannot say that the King James Version alone is the Word of God in English.
MY COMMENT: THE PREVIOUS VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE WERE NOT AS PURE AS THE KJV. SEE THE EXACT WORDING OF PSALM 12:6,7
Second, don’t follow KJV-onlyism for the simple reason that the KJV generally used today is different in substance from the 1611 KJV.
Followers of KJV-onlyism make much of using the “1611 KJV.” But most of them seem unaware of the fact that most of them do not use it. The commonly-used KJV is different from the 1611 edition in substance, not just in spelling, and type-style, and punctuation.
On page 217 of his book, THE KING JAMES VERSION DEFENDED, E. F. Hills wrote: “Two editions of the King James Version were published in 1611. The first is distinguished from the second by a unique misprint, namely, Judas instead of Jesus in Matthew 26:36. The second edition corrected this mistake, and also in other respects was – more carefully done. Other editions followed in 1612, 1613, 1616, 1617 and frequently thereafter. In 1629 and 1638 the text was subjected to two minor revisions. In the 18th century the spelling and punctuation of the King James version were modernized, and many obsolete words were changed to their modern equivalents. The two scholars responsible for these alterations were Dr. Thomas Paris (1762) of Cambridge, and Dr. Benjamin Blayney (1769) of Oxford, and it is to their efforts that the generally current form of the King James Version is due.”
Note that the text was subjected to revisions!
Evangelist Gary Hudson wrote a valuable article called, The Myth of No Revision in which he listed over seventy examples of how the text of the 1611 KJV differs from what is used by most KJV readers today. Four examples of textual changes are given here:
2 Kings 11:10, 1611 KJV: “in the temple”
2 Kings 11:10, current KJV: “in the temple of the Lord”
1 Chronicles 7:5, 1611 KJV: “were men of might”
1 Chronicles 7:5, current KJV: “were valiant men of might”
Matthew 12:23, 1611 KJV: “Is this the son of David?”
Matthew 12:23, current KJV: “Is not this the son of David?”
I John 5:12, 1611 KJV: “he that hath not the Son, hath not life”
I John 5:12, current KJV: “he that hath not the Son of God hath not life”
Have you ever seen stickers on envelopes that say, “Use the Bible God Uses: 1611 KJV”? Or, have you seen advertisements for churches which say something like “Standing for the 1611 KJV” ? Well, it is very likely that they think they are using the original KJV, but are not doing so. A simple comparison of their King James Bibles with the 1611 edition might reveal something they will be surprised by.
While there is nothing wrong with having a preference for the King James Version, we should not make claims that probably are not accurate. Facts are stubborn things, and one can easily verify the accuracy of those who claim to be using the original King James Version.
Since it is easily proven that the KJV usually used today is substantially different from the 1611 edition, KJV-only advocates are faced with a dilemma: they must decide which edition is God’s Word in English.
MY COMMENT: TO SAY THE THE BOOK IN MY HANDS IS “SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT” THAN THE 1611 KJV IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE. THE CHANGES ARE OF NO SUBSTANCE. MODERN VERSIONS CHANGE A LOT MORE. ANY COMPARISON WILL PROVE ME CORRECT. ALSO, MOST OF THE CHANGES WERE MADE BY THE TRANSLATORS THEMSELVES WHO WERE CORRECTING ERRORS OF THE PRINTERS. MY BIBLE IS THE SAME AS THE ONE IN 1611 WITH A FEW CHANGES TO TYPESETTING. WHEN READ ALOUD, IT IS THE SAME WITH THE ONLY DIFFERENCES BEING REGIONAL PRONUNCIATION.
Third, don’t follow KJV-onlyism because it attributes infallibility to the KJV, something not done by its Translators.
The original edition of the KJV has some very interesting and informative introductory material which enables us to see what the Translators thought of their own work. I am referring to The Epistle Dedicatory, and to a lengthy piece called The Translators to the Readers.
In The Epsitle Dedicatory, the Translators dedicated their translation to King James. In their dedication we discover that they did not consider their work to be infallible, as the following quotation proves: “There are infinite arguments of this right Christian and religious affection in your Majesty: but none is more forcible to declare it to others than the vehement and perpetuated desire of the accomplishing and publishing of this work, which now with all humility we present unto your Majesty. For when your Highness had once out of deep judgement apprehended how convenient it was, that out of the original sacred tongues, together with comparing of the labors, both in our own and other foreign languages, of many worthy men who went before us, there should be one more exact translation of the holy Scriptures into the English tongue; Your Majesty did never desist, to urge and to excite those to whom it was commended, that the work might be hastened, and that the business might be expedited in so decent a manner, as a matter of such importance might justly require.”
Since the translators who made the King James Version considered their work to be “one more exact translation of the holy Scriptures into the English tongue,” should we make more of it than they did?
In The Translators To The Reader, we find that they did not look upon their translation the way many do now. For instance, page seven says: “Now to the latter (the Puritans) we answer that we do not deny, nay we affirm, and avow, that the very meanest translation of the Bible in English, set forth by men of our profession (for we have seen none of theirs of the whole Bible as yet) containeth the word of God, nay, is the word of God. No cause therefore why the word translated should be denied to be the word, or forbidden to be current, not withstanding that some imperfections and blemishes may be noted in the setting forth of it. For whatever was perfect under the Sun, where Apostles or Apostolic men, that is, men endued with an extraordinary measure of God’s Spirit, and privileged with the privilege of infallibility, had not their hand?”
Therefore, we should not consider the King James Version to be infallible when the translators themselves denied it.
MY COMMENT: PAUL DID NOT THINK WE WAS INSPIRED IN FIRST CORINTHIANS 7:10. DOES THAT MEAN HE WASN’T INSPIRED. “KNOWING YOUR INSPIRED” IS NOT A REQUIREMENT TO WRITE SOMETHING THAT WAS INSPIRED. THAT IS A MAN-MADE RULE.
A fourth reason we should not follow KJV-onlyism is that the marginal notes in the 1611 edition reveal that the translators themselves were often uncertain of how words and verses should be translated into English.
Most KJV Bibles have few or none of these marginal notes. One should purchase a 1611 edition from Thomas Nelson Publishers so that the notes can be read. They are very interesting, informative, and perhaps unnerving to advocates of KJV-onlyism.
On page 216 of his book, THE KING JAMES VERSION DEFENDED, E. F. Hills said some important things about those notes. Consider his statements carefully: “The marginal notes which the translators attached to the King James Version indicated how God guided their labors providentially. According to Scrivener (1884), there are 8,422 marginal notes in the 1611 edition of the King James Version, including the Apocrypha. In the Old Testament, Scrivener goes on to say, 4,111 of the marginal notes give the more literal meaning of the Hebrew or Aramaic, 2,156 give alternative translations, and 67 give variant readings. In the New Testament 112 of the marginal notes give literal rendering of the Greek, 582 give alternative translations, and 37 give variant readings. These marginal notes show us that the translators were guided providentially through their thought processes, through weighing every possibility and choosing that which seemed to them best.”
Two paragraphs later, Hills wrote, “As the marginal notes indicate, the King James translators did not regard their work as perfect or inspired, but they did consider it to be a trustworthy reproduction of God’s holy Word, and as such they commended it to their Christian reader.”
The conclusion to be drawn from their many notes is obvious: If they were often unsure of themselves, should we attribute infallibility to their translation? No, we should make neither more nor less of their work than they did.
MY COMMENT: SAME AS MY PREVIOUS COMMENT. “BEING SURE OF THEMSELVES” IS NOT A REQUIREMENT TO BEING USED BY GOD.
A fifth reason not to follow KJV-onlyism is that it condemns modern translators for doing what the KJV translators themselves did by putting marginal notes in the Bible.
In reading KJV-only literature, one soon learns that it is unacceptable to put any notes in Bible margins that can make the reader “uncertain” of how a verse should be translated, or that can make one question whether or not a verse should be in the Bible at all. For instance, one pamphlet concerning the NIV says: “Even though NIV includes a weaker translation of this (Matt. 21:44) in the text, the footnote says, ‘Some manuscripts omit vs. 44.’ This is a rather strong suggestion that it may not belong in the Bible at all. Matt. 12:47; 16:3; and Luke 22:43, 44 are treated by the NIV in the same shoddy and shameful way. To the uninformed reader, such footnotes will tend to destroy confidence in the Bible as the Word of God.”
While I understand this concern, the facts prove that the original KJV was “guilty” of the same thing. For example, the KJV marginal note for Luke 10:22 says, ‘Many ancient copies add these words, “and turning to his disciples he said.’” And the notation of Luke 17:36 says, “This 36 verse is wanting in most of the Greek copies.” We should remember the fact that the 1611 KJV Old Testament has 2,156 alternate translations in its margins, and the New Testament has 582 in its margins. Aren’t such extensive marginal notes in the original KJV just as likely to “destroy confidence in the Bible as the Word of God” as those in other translations are said to do?
MY COMMENT: IF YOU THINK THAT THE MAIN CRITIQUE OF “SCHOLARSHIP-ONLYISM” IS THE MODERN VERSION’S USE OF FOOTNOTES, THEN YOU DON’T KNOW THE ISSUE (AND THEREFORE ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO WRITE ON THE ISSUE). THE PROBLEM WITH THE MV’S FOOTNOTES IS THAT THEY TAKE WHOLE VERSES OUT OF THE TEXT AND PUT THEM IN THE FOOTNOTES. IN THE CASE OF MARK 16: 12 VERSES ARE CAST DOUBT UPON. THIS IS NOTHING LIKE WHAT THE KING JAMES TRANSLATORS DID AND TO CLAIM OTHERWISE IS BEING DECEITFUL.
A sixth reason not to follow KJV-onlyism is because the KJV is the product of the Church of England.
As a Baptist, I believe in the Biblical distinctives of Baptists, two of which are (1) the separation of church and state, and (2) the immersion of believers. I would not have speakers in our church if they deny these doctrines. Therefore, I could not have any of the translators of the King James Version preach in my pulpit. They believed in, and were members of the Church of England, a state church. Furthermore, they believed in baptismal regeneration, whereas Baptists believe in regeneration by the Word of God and by the work of Holy Spirit.
In their epistle of dedication of the King James Version, its translators expressed their “great hope that the Church of England shall reap good fruit thereby.” The fact that the KJV was produced by the Church of England does not mean that it should not be used. But it does mean that if Baptists are going to be consistent with their theology, they must admit that the translators of the KJV would not qualify to join their churches.
Consequently, it does not make sense that so many Baptists are crusading for the exclusive use of the King James Version. How can Baptists crusade for the exclusive use of a translation produced by a denomination that promotes beliefs that oppose Baptist beliefs?
We would do well to adopt the view of the KJV’s translators about their work. In their epistle of dedication to King James they stated that their work was “one more exact translation of the holy Scriptures into the English tongue.”
Furthermore, we would do well to remember that in The Translators To The Reader, they said: “Truly (good Christian Reader) we never thought from the beginning, that we should need to make a new Translation, nor yet to make of a bad one a good one, but to make a good one better, or out of many good ones, one principal good one, not justly to be excepted against; that hath been our endeavor, that hath been our mark.
We also should remember what E.F. Hills wrote on page 216 of his book, THE KING JAMES VERSION DEFENDED: “As the marginal notes indicate, the King James translators did not regard their work as perfect or inspired, but they did consider it to be a trustworthy reproduction of God’s holy Word, and as such they commended it to their Christian readers…”
It is with such an opinion of the King James Version that we, too, can commend it to readers, both Christian and non-Christian. But we have good reasons to not follow KJV-onlyism.
MY COMMENT: I KNOW WHAT A “BRIDER” WILL SAY TO THIS, BUT LET ME ASK ANYWAYS. WAS PAUL A BAPTIST? WAS CHRIST? WAS MOSES? BEING A BAPTIST IS NOT A REQUIREMENT TO BEING USED BY GOD. (ALTHOUGH AMBITIOUS BAPTIST PREACHERS WOULD LIKE YOU TO THINK SO.) ALSO, THE KJV TRANSLATORS WERE ABOUT HALF ANGLICAN AND HALF DISSENTERS (CALVINIST, PRESBYTERIAN, ETC). TO CLAIM OTHERWISE IS TO BE DECEITFUL.
(This article is a re-write of my original article, called, “Why I cannot follow KJV-onlyism.”)
MY COMMENT: ONCE MORE, THE KING JAMES IS VINDICATED. THIS POOR FUNNYMENTALIST PROVIDES NO ALTERNATIVE TO THE BELIEF IN THE KING JAMES THAT I HAVE ON MY DESK. HIS HIGHEST AUTHORITY IS HIS OWN BRAIN, JUST LIKE ANY ATHEIST.